Comments on: The Backlash against “Born and Bred” http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/the-backlash-against-%e2%80%9cborn-and-bred%e2%80%9d What would an Economist recommend for Trenton? Fri, 06 Aug 2010 17:59:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mister Clean http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/the-backlash-against-%e2%80%9cborn-and-bred%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-1569 Mister Clean Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:24:25 +0000 http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/?p=81#comment-1569 Oh, and I clicked on the link to Manny Safe's site, and I got the following. Not so "safe" if you ask me... "Verizon Internet Security Warning: Suspected Fraudulent Web Site Detected You are attempting to connect to a reported fraudulent web site URL: http://www.mannyseguraformayor.net/ Do not submit personal information to this web site. We recommend that you delete any emails associated with this URL." Oh, and I clicked on the link to Manny Safe’s site, and I got the following. Not so “safe” if you ask me…

“Verizon Internet Security Warning:
Suspected Fraudulent Web Site Detected

You are attempting to connect to a reported fraudulent web site

URL: http://www.mannyseguraformayor.net/

Do not submit personal information to this web site. We recommend that you delete any emails associated with this URL.”

]]> By: patricia stewart http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/the-backlash-against-%e2%80%9cborn-and-bred%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-1561 patricia stewart Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:18:33 +0000 http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/?p=81#comment-1561 Hi, Dan. Very good piece. When I was running, I was tempted to point out that Trenton has been governed by those born & bred here for the last ffity years. Art Holland was a native son. An interesting crowd here; it was pointed out that I was born in NY and (I really love this one) I am an Episcopalian in a Baptist city. While I am happy here, I do find Trenton to be a strange, "urban city." I hate that phrase!!! See ya. PHS Hi, Dan. Very good piece. When I was running, I was tempted to point out that Trenton has been governed by those born & bred here for the last ffity years. Art Holland was a native son. An interesting crowd here; it was pointed out that I was born in NY and (I really love this one) I am an Episcopalian in a Baptist city. While I am happy here, I do find Trenton to be a strange, “urban city.” I hate that phrase!!! See ya. PHS

]]> By: Mister Clean http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/the-backlash-against-%e2%80%9cborn-and-bred%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-1557 Mister Clean Wed, 17 Feb 2010 00:00:02 +0000 http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/?p=81#comment-1557 ::stands and applauds:: ::stands and applauds::

]]> By: Chrissy http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/the-backlash-against-%e2%80%9cborn-and-bred%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-1552 Chrissy Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:47:09 +0000 http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/?p=81#comment-1552 Oh! I meant to add that Manny has a website: www.mannysegura.com John Harmon and ESAbW both have Facebook pages, but that's not the same as a real website. The only decent think about their FB pages, though, is that you don't have to be friends with them to see their pages. Oh! I meant to add that Manny has a website: http://www.mannysegura.com

John Harmon and ESAbW both have Facebook pages, but that’s not the same as a real website. The only decent think about their FB pages, though, is that you don’t have to be friends with them to see their pages.

]]> By: Kevin Hogan http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/the-backlash-against-%e2%80%9cborn-and-bred%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-1551 Kevin Hogan Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:30:27 +0000 http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/?p=81#comment-1551 uh, I was referring to the graph about candidates with no web site. uh, I was referring to the graph about candidates with no web site.

]]> By: Kevin Hogan http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/the-backlash-against-%e2%80%9cborn-and-bred%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-1550 Kevin Hogan Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:29:41 +0000 http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/?p=81#comment-1550 You helped me trim the mayoral list down with this one graph: Other candidates appear to have a presence but haven't actively engaged the strong community current online. You helped me trim the mayoral list down with this one graph:

Other candidates appear to have a presence but haven’t actively engaged the strong community current online.

]]> By: Chrissy http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/the-backlash-against-%e2%80%9cborn-and-bred%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1#comment-1547 Chrissy Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:18:48 +0000 http://livingonthenet.com/wordpress/?p=81#comment-1547 Dan, I found myself nodding throughout this. I wouldn't *NOT* vote for someone just because they are born & bred, but it's not a selling point for me. When I graduated college, I moved to Chambersburg, and lived across the street from a nice family, who had never left the city. I found that remarkable, and a bit sad: they hadn't even been to Hamilton, or the mall, or Morrisville, PA: not that those places are fantastic destinations; I mention them because they're close. It definitely says something about the greatness Trenton of yesteryear; it was THAT sustainable, that a family never had to leave the city, as it had great shopping, work options, decent schools, Little League, etc. etc. etc. But, sad in the sense that we live in a pretty wonderful world, with so many great things to see, and ideas to take in, etc. Those sustainable days are gone, though. Doesn't mean there's no hope. I saw a thread on TrentonSpeaks where a former Trentonian attacked a current (not born and bred) one for a lack of "Trenton-ness." I find this personally offensive because I grew up elsewhere, too, but I live here now. I pay taxes and vote; I participate on a civic level, and considering how many people live here, there aren't THAT many people doing the same, including, I'm guessing, the born and bred. It boggles my mind that FORMER city residents think they're "more Trenton" than I am; and it is irritating that current residents have a prejudice against me as well, though it seems my neighborhood offers a bit of "street cred," compared to, say, Hiltonia or Mill Hill. So ridiculous. If they were the target of this sort of prejudice, I'm guessing they'd flip out, right?? This newcomer-phobia does happen elsewhere, but usually in functional, if old-fashioned rural communities. There's no place for that here. Thanks for a great read. Dan, I found myself nodding throughout this. I wouldn’t *NOT* vote for someone just because they are born & bred, but it’s not a selling point for me. When I graduated college, I moved to Chambersburg, and lived across the street from a nice family, who had never left the city. I found that remarkable, and a bit sad: they hadn’t even been to Hamilton, or the mall, or Morrisville, PA: not that those places are fantastic destinations; I mention them because they’re close. It definitely says something about the greatness Trenton of yesteryear; it was THAT sustainable, that a family never had to leave the city, as it had great shopping, work options, decent schools, Little League, etc. etc. etc. But, sad in the sense that we live in a pretty wonderful world, with so many great things to see, and ideas to take in, etc.

Those sustainable days are gone, though. Doesn’t mean there’s no hope. I saw a thread on TrentonSpeaks where a former Trentonian attacked a current (not born and bred) one for a lack of “Trenton-ness.” I find this personally offensive because I grew up elsewhere, too, but I live here now. I pay taxes and vote; I participate on a civic level, and considering how many people live here, there aren’t THAT many people doing the same, including, I’m guessing, the born and bred. It boggles my mind that FORMER city residents think they’re “more Trenton” than I am; and it is irritating that current residents have a prejudice against me as well, though it seems my neighborhood offers a bit of “street cred,” compared to, say, Hiltonia or Mill Hill. So ridiculous. If they were the target of this sort of prejudice, I’m guessing they’d flip out, right?? This newcomer-phobia does happen elsewhere, but usually in functional, if old-fashioned rural communities. There’s no place for that here.
Thanks for a great read.

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